Gov. Jerry Brown to Trump: 'You Don't Want to Mess with California'
Kailani Koenig
MSN
WASHINGTON — As Donald
Trump swept to victory across the Midwest and several swing states on Election
Day, the nation's largest state was largely out of that conversation.
California overwhelmingly
voted against Trump, delivering the state to Hillary Clinton by 30 points in
November, and the president hasn't had the kindest words to say about the state
since then — last month he called California "out of control."
Despite some recent threats from the president
to try to use federal funding as a "weapon" against the state if it
voted to become a sanctuary state, the Democratic Governor Jerry Brown ushered
a tough rebuttal in an interview with NBC's "Meet The Press" this
week from the nation's capital.
"We do have something
called the ninth and the tenth amendment," he stated. "The federal
government just can't arbitrarily for political reasons punish the State of
California, that's number one. Number two, California is America. We're 12
percent. We're a key part. The export capital going into the Pacific. We're the
innovation capital, high tech, agriculture, 40 to 50 billion dollar industry.
You don't want to mess with California because you're going to mess with the
economy, and that could blow up in your face in a gigantic recession, and roll
the Republicans right out of this town."
Brown is the longest-serving governor in the history of California, serving from 1975 to 1983 and again since 2011 — and he touted the state's success in recent years since he took office.
"It was in deep trouble just a few years ago," he noted. "It was called ungovernable. Now we have a state surplus."
In a January interview with "Meet The Press Daily," California's new Attorney General Xavier Becerra offered some examples of where the state could fight back against the federal government on any moves from the Trump administration they believe couldn't stand up in court, specifically pointing to the president's border wall proposal.
Brown also saw some room for California to put up a fight on the issue.
"I don't like that wall, number one," he said. "And to the extent that that violates law, certainly I would enforce that. We're not going to sit around and just play patsy and say, 'Hey, go ahead. Lock us in. Do whatever the hell you want. Deport 2 billion, 2 million people.' No, we're going to fight, and we're going to fight very hard. But we're not going to bring stupid lawsuits or be running to the courthouse every day. We're going to be careful."
Brown claimed Trump's desire for a border wall has "a lot of odor here of kind of a strongman, kind of a world where you want the ultimate leader here to be doing all this stuff. And having a wall locking the people in is one of those characteristics."
But the governor said that he doesn't want his relationship with the federal government to be all about battling — bringing up a few issues where he thought they could find common ground.
"I'm willing to work with the president," he said. "I certainly think collaboration, diplomacy, after all, we work with Russia, we work with China, we certainly can work with our own president within our own country."
"I want to work with him where there's something good. But I'm not going to just turn over our police department to become agents of the federal government as they deport women and children and people who are contributing to the economic wellbeing of our state, which they are."
Brown, as many Democrats have, expressed some optimism for working with the president on infrastructure spending, pointing to a rail system from San Jose to San Francisco where he has sparred with some state Republicans.
"This is is a real test for Donald Trump," Brown said. "Does he believe in a shovel-ready construction project that will create American jobs by American products, is ready to go within a couple of months, or not? Because the Republicans are only against it for purely crass political reasons. So this is a real test."
"If he can't overcome the little petty partisanship of these small Republicans in California," Brown continued, "I think that means he's not about infrastructure, he's about partisanship."
Brown, 78, has run for president three different times over the years. As the Democrats struggle now with losses at the presidential, congressional and state levels, he addressed the party's current leadership.
"Who is the leader? I think there are probably many leaders. Who's ever the leader who can seize the reigns of leadership. And right now, there's a total vacuum," he acknowledged.
Despite being a popular four-term governor of the nation's most populous state, Brown said he would likely not fill that position.
"Probably because I've run for every office and there's no more left," he said. "That might be one reason. Second, but I'm willing to play whatever role I can. And if that requires some leadership skill, I'd be glad to contribute that."
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